Few things beat the feeling of heading out for a run with nothing but a watch on your wrist. The Garmin Forerunner 165 Music promises exactly that: phone-free listening with music stored directly on the watch. But with a €50 premium over the standard model, the question is whether the music feature is worth the extra cash and the battery trade-off.

Battery life (smartwatch): 11 days ·
GPS with music: 7 hours ·
Weight: 39 g ·
Display: 1.2-inch AMOLED ·
Price premium: €50

Quick snapshot

1Confirmed facts
2What’s unclear
  • Individual satisfaction with music feature varies – no large-scale survey data (TechRadar)
  • Long-term durability of the music storage not yet widely reported (TechRadar)
3Timeline signal
  • Released February 2024, still current in 2025 (The Guardian)
4What’s next
  • Garmin continues software updates; no successor announced yet (Runners World UK)

The pattern is clear: core specs are identical, but the music feature changes battery math significantly.

Key specifications at a glance
Specification Value
Battery life (smartwatch) 11 days (Garmin Support)
Battery life (GPS + music) 7 hours (Garmin Support)
Weight 39 g (The Guardian)
Display 1.2-inch AMOLED, 390×390 pixels (The Guardian)
Water resistance 5 ATM (50 m) – official Garmin spec
Price (Music version) $299.99 / £289.99 (TechRadar)

Is the Garmin Forerunner 165 Music worth it?

Pros and Cons of the Music Version

Upsides

  • Phone-free music playback during runs (TechRadar)
  • Supports Spotify, Deezer, Amazon Music (TechRadar)
  • Same excellent hardware as the standard model (The Guardian)

Downsides

  • Battery life drops from 19 h GPS to 7 h with music (Garmin Support)
  • €50 price premium over non-music version (TechRadar)
  • Music sync requires initial setup via Garmin Express or phone (TechRadar)

Price Comparison: Music vs Non-Music

One number, one pattern: the Music version costs $50 more than the standard Forerunner 165, which retails at $249.99 (TechRadar). That extra money buys you offline music storage and playback – but no other hardware change.

User Feedback and Ratings

Runners who value phone-free runs consistently say the upgrade is worth it. According to Runners World UK, typical general training usage lasts 5 to 8 days, with around 5 to 6 hours of GPS run time, which aligns with the music version’s battery for most users. The OutdoorGearLab review noted roughly 11 days of smartwatch mode and about 19 hours of GPS recording time for the non-music model – a clear trade-off for music lovers.

The trade-off

For runners who run marathons or ultras, the 7-hour GPS+music battery may be tight. For everyday 5K to half-marathon training, the music feature is a net gain.

The implication: your typical run length determines whether the premium pays off.

What’s the difference between Garmin 165 and 165 Music?

Key Specifications Comparison

Six specs, one pattern: the only difference is music storage and the resulting battery trade-off.

Specification Forerunner 165 Forerunner 165 Music
Music storage None 4 GB (approx. 500 songs) – via Garmin official specs
Smartwatch battery 11 days (Garmin Support) 11 days (Garmin Support)
GPS-only battery 19 hours (Garmin Support) 7 hours (Garmin Support)
Weight 39 g (The Guardian) 39 g (The Guardian)
Display 1.2-inch AMOLED (The Guardian) 1.2-inch AMOLED (The Guardian)
Price (US) $249.99 (TechRadar) $299.99 (TechRadar)

Which One to Choose

If you never listen to music while running, buy the standard Forerunner 165 and save $50. If you want the freedom of leaving your phone behind, the Music version is the one. The hardware is identical otherwise – same case, same display, same sensors.

The catch

The Music version’s GPS battery life drops by more than half when you play music. For long runs exceeding 7 hours, the standard model with a phone is a safer bet.

What this means: the choice hinges on whether offline music is worth halving your GPS runtime.

Can you listen to music with Garmin Forerunner 165?

Only the Music version. The standard Forerunner 165 has no speaker, no headphone jack, and no Bluetooth audio profile (TechRadar).

How to Download Music to the Watch

  1. Connect the watch to your computer and use Garmin Express to transfer MP3 files (TechRadar).
  2. Alternatively, use the Garmin Connect app on your phone to sync music from streaming services.

Supported Music Services

The Forerunner 165 Music works with Spotify, Deezer, and Amazon Music (TechRadar). You can also sideload your own MP3 files.

Pairing Bluetooth Headphones

Go to the music controls on the watch, put your headphones in pairing mode, and select them from the list. The watch pairs with any standard Bluetooth headphones.

The upshot

Setup takes about 10 minutes the first time, and after that you can leave your phone at home.

The catch: initial sync still requires a phone or computer, but daily use is truly phone-free.

Do I need my phone to play music on my Garmin 165?

No, once the music is downloaded. The watch stores songs locally, and you can play them through Bluetooth headphones without any phone connection (TechRadar). Initial sync does require a phone or computer.

Storage Capacity for Music

The watch has 4 GB of internal storage dedicated to music, which holds roughly 500 songs – enough for most runners’ playlists.

Is the Garmin Forerunner 165 outdated?

No – it was released in February 2024 and remains current in 2025 (The Guardian). It’s Garmin’s entry-level AMOLED running watch, and no successor has been announced.

Competitor Alternatives

  • Forerunner 265: adds multiband GPS, training readiness, and a larger AMOLED display – but costs $150 more.
  • Forerunner 255: MIP display, no music on base model, but slightly cheaper.

Garmin continues to provide software updates for the 165 series, including bug fixes and feature improvements (Runners World UK).

The pattern: the 165 Music remains a current entry point, not a legacy product.

Confirmed facts & What remains unclear

Confirmed facts
  • Specifications from Garmin official page – battery life, display, weight.
  • Music storage capacity of 4 GB (Garmin official specs).
  • Compatibility with Spotify, Deezer, Amazon Music (TechRadar).
What’s unclear
  • Individual user satisfaction may vary – no large-scale survey.
  • Long-term durability of the music storage not yet fully reported.

The Forerunner 165 Music lets you download songs and playlists from Spotify, Deezer, and Amazon Music, so you can leave your phone behind.

– TechRadar

It’s a capable entry-level watch that packs in most of the features you’d want from a modern running watch, with a bright AMOLED screen.

– The Guardian

Typical general training usage is about 5 to 8 days, with around 5 to 6 hours of GPS run time.

– Runners World UK

The Garmin Forerunner 165 Music is a smart buy for runners who hate carrying a phone. The €50 premium buys genuine offline music freedom, but it cuts GPS battery life from 19 hours to 7. For the average runner doing 30–60 minute runs, that trade-off is easy to accept. For the marathoner or ultrarunner, the standard Forerunner 165 plus a phone in a pocket is the more practical choice. Runners who rarely exceed 5K to half-marathon distances will find the music feature a decisive upgrade.

Frequently asked questions

How many songs can the Garmin Forerunner 165 Music hold?

Roughly 500 songs, thanks to 4 GB of dedicated music storage.

Can I use Spotify on Garmin Forerunner 165 Music?

Yes, Spotify is supported along with Deezer and Amazon Music (TechRadar).

Is the Garmin Forerunner 165 Music water resistant?

Yes, it has a 5 ATM rating, meaning it’s water-resistant to 50 meters.

How do I charge the Garmin Forerunner 165 Music?

It uses a proprietary Garmin charging cable. Full charge takes about 100 minutes (OutdoorGearLab).

Does the Garmin Forerunner 165 Music have GPS?

Yes, it includes GPS, GLONASS, and Galileo satellite systems.

What colors are available for the Garmin Forerunner 165 Music?

Available in Black, Whitestone, and a few limited-edition colors.

Can I receive notifications on the Garmin Forerunner 165 Music?

Yes, it shows smartphone notifications when paired with your phone.

How long does it take to charge the Garmin Forerunner 165 Music?

Approximately 100 minutes for a full charge (OutdoorGearLab).